Friday, May 12, 2006


Why are drugs wrong? I want everyone who sees this to answer.


Blogger Moi said...

If you don't know, maybe you've lost too many brain cells already. ;)

9:52 PM  
Blogger Pisces Iscariot said...

They're not wrong - they just are and always have been.

12:33 AM  
Blogger White Man Retarded said...

PI-I don't know how I feel about that.
CJ-Answer the question.

3:52 AM  
Anonymous Susan M said...

Assuming you're talking about illegal drugs...Here's my reasoning, not necessarily in order of importance:

1. They're can be addictive. And as such, they impede your free agency.

2. They can lessen your ability to control your actions. Which can also be an impediment to your free agency, but mostly it can cause you to wreak havoc in all kinds of lives, in all kinds of ways.

3. They can cause you not to care about things you should care about. Like feeding and caring for your kids. Or holding a job. Or doing anything.

4. They kill brain cells and can alter your brain chemistry in ways that it'll take years to recover from, or that you may never recover from.

I could go on but I'm tired.

9:39 AM  
Blogger Pisces Iscariot said...

Susan m: your 4 points apply to legal drugs too - alcohol?
Patrick: people have been using drugs for aeons (peyote, aminita, marijuana) the concept of pharmaceuticals is a relatively recent one.

3:41 PM  
Blogger Moi said...

They can tear your family apart too. :(

11:36 PM  
Blogger Elizabeth-W said...

You're starting with the premise that they are wrong. Pisces' point about them just 'being' is fair. Do I think one glass of wine is wrong? No. Do I think drinking and driving is wrong? Absolutely. Do I think playing poker once a year with the guys is wrong? Probably not. Do I think some prescribed medications are used inappropriately? All the time. Do I think eating a pint of ben and jerry's every night is wrong? Possibly. I can see the gray areas, and don't necessarily think that abstinence is always the best policy, but for most people it is the best policy simply because some things are so physiologically addictive that after a few uses one's ability to choose rationally becomes diminished. Anything can become addictive (food, exercise, gambling, drugs, etc.) and it is all about our relationship to the object. So here's my question. What do you want to not be wrong? Do you want justification for recreational use? Some things are wrong if only because they're against the law, and I think that process in and of itself is damaging, the process of engaging in something illegal can't be good for one's mental health.
Did you want a yes/no answer to your question? ;)

7:35 AM  
Blogger White Man Retarded said...

I was not searching for anything. I did not ask the question with any answer, motive, or thought behind hit except for what you, the person answering, thought. I have my own answers. First of all, the question wasn't asked fairly, and I realized that in retrospect. I don't like drugs simply because they are enslaving, and that includes alcohol. I don't necessarily think all drugs kill brain cells, and there is biological proof behind that statement. But, whatever. I just wanted a discussion. This kind of proves what I've been thinking about conversation for a while. Everyone searches for motives behind a question or statement instead of taking that question or statement at face value and truly answering.

3:16 PM  
Blogger Elizabeth-W said...

Don't you think that when people have conversations that is what is happening, that people are trying to understand where the other is coming from? If it were just the answer, it would be sometimes out of context. How do you spell the word "there"? They're, their, there. Context forms most of conversation, don't you think? So aside from not liking drugs because they're enslaving, do you think they're wrong? I think there's a difference between dislike and wrong.

3:58 PM  
Blogger Gloria Glo said...

Uhm....ditto. In general, if you're using something to think better, feel better, or forget to do either of the afore-mentioned, then it's a pointless exercise in avoidanc, regardless of the substance or activity in question.

To face life. To change. To embrace. We have to be free to feel. And substances impede that, making us mindless slaves to the momentary alleviance of suffering.

And that cheapens the experience of being human, in my opinion.

4:03 PM  
Blogger White Man Retarded said...

As I said, in retrospect I didn't ask the question I had in mind, what I meant to ask. Maybe what I meant was why are drugs (illegal, mood-altering...) against the WOW? My thoughts are along Glo's, not to sound favoritive or anything...As far as communication goes, there is a difference (I think) between trying to gather where the other person is coming from and having an answer preformed before the other already speaks. Does that make sense? I am not blessed with eloquence.

4:28 PM  
Blogger elasticwaistbandlady said...

I'm all over the place on this one. Rastafarians, Native Americans, Middle Eastern hookahs and opium dens, have all relied on natural sources to "enlighten" them and make their physical being more receptive to spirituality and revelations.
My problem lies with manufactured drugs like crack and meth and the misuse of pharmaceuticals not with medicinal marijuana and the like. I'm not a libertarian by the way.

5:16 AM  

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